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If those of you who read my journal haven't heard yet, it sounds like comment headers will be going away on Tuesday with the new site update, UNLESS you use S2 AND custom comments pages that are deliberately designed to allow comment subject headers. Not many people do this, because custom comments pages are not terribly popular (they mimic the layout of your main journal).

For several reasons, a large section of the userbase is not pleased by this.

There are other changes that sound like they will be implemented re: comment browsing, userpics, etc., and which may result in greatly-slowed loading times, which I am "Waiting And Seeing" on.

I sort of get the feeling that LJ staff doesn't care about userbase concerns, so if it actually is as bad as all that, I would expect that by the end of the year:

a) the kink memes will have moved to DW or some other site - and frankly, I spend a lot more time on the memes than I do chatting on my journal these days, not that I don't love and cherish you all

b) I will have abandoned this journal to move to DW (where I am also valmora, and which is allowing free registration through the end of the year, should you wish to join)

c) I will be doing most of my communicating on tumblr, which I loathe utterly but have an account on as val-mora and currently do not use at all PRECISELY BECAUSE I prefer LJ

d) I will no longer even consider posting fic on LJ and all fanfic from here on out will be posted exclusively on AO3, without notification here (not that this was not already happening)

It is likely that I would port all entries from here onto DW, if that is possible.

Date: 2011-12-19 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
... LJ WHY?!

This is a sad day....

Date: 2011-12-19 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The guy who does site design has noted that the vast majority of people don't use subject headers and therefore they can't be important. Also, he thinks that the way things are done now is "ugly".

More information here:

by which I mean "read the comments" because LJ wasn't saying anything at all about it.

If you decide you want to protest, send them feedback via their forms, don't comment on the entry itself (they're probably not reading it).

Date: 2011-12-20 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hurr. I Hope they aren't dumbasses about this. But I don't really expect it... Sigh. Good bye to even more people of the FEW people who still use this site.

Date: 2011-12-20 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
If you have any questions about porting to DW, let me know, it is super easy! I have 20+ lj accounts that I use for different things and I've ported most of them - all the ones I use frequently are completely mirrored, and a full port will bring all your entries, comments, icons, tags and custom friend groups so everything is still filtered the way you want it.

Tumblr, ugh. I love it for pic surfing but using it for communication of any kind is a bitch and a half. D:

Also, sorry I haven't gotten email and stuff replied to, holidays have kind of swamped me. Whyyyy do I have so many siblings, why. ;.;

Date: 2011-12-22 03:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile]
just letting you know I'm adding you on dw! I'm conthedots over there. not sure if I'm moving or what, but I'm certainly entertaining the idea.

Date: 2011-12-25 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
IMO, LJ has been on a slow decline for years now. It was once great, but it's been disrupted by so many other technologies that have ways of monetizing besides interstitial ads (seriously, who likes those?). All its creators are long-gone now; the product has changed hands many times and much of what made the site great is no more. Fandom is still alive but only because of the inertia of a long-established community.

The most poignant microcosm of LJ's decline for me is that it's been years since I first saw the site throw an Internal Server Error because I had style=mine turned on and I clicked on a comment link, and that bug remains unfixed to this day because that part of the codebase is ancient and the current developers have never touched it and don't want to for fear of breaking something else. (I know this personally; I submitted a bug report and got a reply telling me why it's still broken.)

I've been on the cusp of posting a here's-where-to-find-me-now-that-LJ-is-dead final entry for a few months now. The time is coming. I just still have a few straggler friends that aren't ready to give it up yet and I worry about losing touch. :(

Date: 2011-12-26 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I can't really comment on most of your entry, but, regarding fandom activity -

The thing is, LJ-like sites do some things for fandom better than any other platform around. I'm thinking SPECIFICALLY of kink memes. The idea of running a kink meme anywhere but LJ or DW or any similar site is - mindbogglingly difficult. RP is very similar - you can't group-RP effectively on a tumblr, not really. Furthermore, communities in LJ-like sites are not possible on tumblr or AO3, and webrings have been out of fashion since I was in middle school.

So when fandom - at least HS fandom - is talking about getting the kink memes off of LJ, what they're talking about, in a lot of ways, is actively moving toward divorcing the fandom experience from LJ completely. At least as far as my experience goes. Why follow someone's blog on LJ anymore? Most of the people who are active have all abandoned it for tumblr (and, sure, there's no privacy on tumblr - make a personal tumblr, or don't post it at all), and their fic is on AO3, or on the kink memes.

But the kink memes cannot be run on tumblr or twitter or wherever. They really need a site that has a structure very similar to LJ's - by which they really mean, if not LJ, then DW. *shrugs* When kink memes go out of fashion, then the LJ structure might be dead for fandom, but I think it'll be a little while yet.

Date: 2012-01-01 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
What the heck is DW?

Date: 2012-01-01 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]


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